Christian nationalist pastor Brian Sauvé is drawing attention after publicly arguing against some of the most basic freedoms American women have exercised for generations — including voting, living independently and using social media without male supervision.

Sauvé, senior pastor of Refuge Church in Utah and president of New Christendom Press, made the remarks during an episode of The King’s Hall, a podcast he co-hosts with fellow pastor Eric Conn.

During the discussion, Sauvé argued that modern society has come to accept things he believes should not be considered normal — including women participating independently in politics.

“We consider normal women having political rule,” Sauvé said.

The discussion also touched directly on the 19th Amendment, which prohibited denying the right to vote on the basis of sex.

Conn referenced a recent Sauvé social-media post opposing the amendment, telling him that what is historically unusual is giving women the right to vote.

Sauvé has separately written that “women voting is radical,” while describing repeal of the amendment as a rejection of what he calls a modern experiment.

But voting wasn't the only issue.

Sauvé also argued that women should generally not have unrestricted access to social media without oversight from a man.

“Women either shouldn't be on social media or any social media they have should be kind of a walled garden situation,” he said, describing that garden as one in which a “competent man” controls or monitors what a woman sees.

Sauvé then offered his own marriage as an example.

He said he has access to his wife's social-media accounts and has personally blocked thousands of accounts from them.

According to Sauvé, his wife has “very little idea” of what is happening across much of social media because he has constructed what he described as a “walled garden” for her.

He also criticized the idea of women spending extended periods of their lives living independently from men, specifically contrasting that with women living under a father and later a husband.

Sauvé characterized modern attitudes toward those freedoms as evidence that society has normalized something deeply wrong.

His views are not entirely new.

In 2022, Sauvé generated widespread criticism after publicly telling women that there was “no reason whatsoever” for them to post photographs of themselves wearing bikinis, low-cut shirts or underwear online. The comments prompted the viral hashtag #DearBrian and criticism from women as well as other Christians who rejected his interpretation of Christianity.

His current remarks come as Sauvé and Conn promote a forthcoming book, The Longhouse: How Feminism Conquered the West and Made Us All Miserable. New Christendom Press describes the book in unmistakable terms: “Feminism is bad, actually.”

The significance of Sauvé's comments goes beyond another inflammatory podcast clip.

The 19th Amendment was ratified in 1920. More than a century later, the constitutional right of women to vote is a foundational part of American democracy.

Yet a small but vocal Christian nationalist movement continues to question whether women should exercise political power independently at all.

Sauvé isn't merely criticizing feminism or arguing for traditional roles within his own family.

He is publicly questioning whether women should independently participate in political life, control their own social-media experience, or live without male authority.

Those are positions Americans can evaluate on their own merits.

But they should also understand exactly what is being proposed.

The debate isn't simply about whether society has become “too feminist.”

It is about whether millions of American adults should retain political and personal autonomy that has existed for generations.